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last year the deficit was 7.9%. this year with the apf coupons it is forecast to be 6.9%, but that excludes the aspect of the royal mail pension access. it will fall to 5.2% the year after, 4.2 president in 2015-'16, before reaching 1.6% in 2017-'18. in 2009-'10 the country was borrowing 159 billion pounds. this year we are borrowing 108 billion pounds. that is forecast to fall to 99 billion next year, 88 billion the year after, then 73 billion in 2015-'16 and 49 billion and 31 billion in the two years around that. these are the central forecasts published by the opr with the asset purchase facility cash transfer included. when the transfer is excluded, as we show in the document, the deficit also falls from 7.9% last year to 7.7% this year, then 6.9% next year and falls in every single year after that. and cash borrowing falls in every year as well. now, there are those who have been saying that the deficit was going up this year. indeed, i think i heard it in prime minister's questions. but any way you present the
last year the deficit was 7.9%. this year with the apf coupons it is forecast to be 6.9%, but that excludes the aspect of the royal mail pension access. it will fall to 5.2% the year after, 4.2 president in 2015-'16, before reaching 1.6% in 2017-'18. in 2009-'10 the country was borrowing 159 billion pounds. this year we are borrowing 108 billion pounds. that is forecast to fall to 99 billion next year, 88 billion the year after, then 73 billion in 2015-'16 and 49 billion and 31 billion in the...
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. >> that is erskine bowles, who along with alan simpson shared the deficit reduction commission a couple of years ago. they are both in town trying to pound a sense at into elected leaders. evan thomas has been out of town promoting his book, "ike's bluff." terrific christmas present. >> thank you. >> as i recall, we were having the same composition we are having now. >> like groundhog day. talk about bluffing -- they will be complete unreasonable until the last second where they agreed. while they are bluffing, we could go over the cliff. >> where are we headed, mark? >> one side says that raising tax rates is an example, the other side says we will not balance the budget on the backs of students and seniors without asking those who make as much as i do not to pay another diamond. we are in the chest thumping a stage of this negotiation. we are interested in the product rather than the process. the process does the fact of the product and you don't want hostilities to make the final product unreachable. >> nina, there were a bunch of c.l.'s in town saying please do something so we can p
. >> that is erskine bowles, who along with alan simpson shared the deficit reduction commission a couple of years ago. they are both in town trying to pound a sense at into elected leaders. evan thomas has been out of town promoting his book, "ike's bluff." terrific christmas present. >> thank you. >> as i recall, we were having the same composition we are having now. >> like groundhog day. talk about bluffing -- they will be complete unreasonable until the...
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it does not solve the deficit. it is not a serious deficit proposal. the credit rating agencies are looking for a plan that lowers the gdp to debt ratio. i do not think there is a magic number. social security, medicare, to find a sustainable path for word on them. do you think the president's plan adequately addresses the sustainability of medicare and social security? >> i think he needs to go further. i do not think it is enough. i believe the proposals are good ones. i think they are hard proposals to make because they're substantive. to achieve fiscal sustainability in the context of $3 trillion in 10-year deficit reduction, i think we need to do more. >> looking at the republican plan and the president's proposal, do you see any common ground? >> the common ground is that we're looking at the same proposals. cbo has scored a number of different approaches. i also think there is no general agreement in the context of the current discussion, we will not make any major structural changes to these programs. we will not block grant medicaid, and we wi
it does not solve the deficit. it is not a serious deficit proposal. the credit rating agencies are looking for a plan that lowers the gdp to debt ratio. i do not think there is a magic number. social security, medicare, to find a sustainable path for word on them. do you think the president's plan adequately addresses the sustainability of medicare and social security? >> i think he needs to go further. i do not think it is enough. i believe the proposals are good ones. i think they are...
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the deficit is down. borrowing is down. jobs are being created. it is a hard road, but we are making progress. everything that we do, we are helping those who want to work hard and get along. thank you. [cheers] [cheers] >> mr. speaker, today after 2.5 years, we can see and people can feel in the country the scale of this government economic failure. [cheers] our economy this year is contracting. the conferred government borrowing is revised this year and every year. the national deficit is not rising. excuse me, it is rising, it is not falling. [cheers] i will say again that our economy is contracting this year. government rowling is revised up and the national debt is rising. it is not falling. there are people struggling to make ends meet. middle and lower income families who are paying the price. where millionaires get a tax cut and a 3 billion-pound welfare handout to the people who need it. let me spell out the facts. you might learn something. [cheers] [applause] [cheers] >> in june of 2010, our economy would grow by 2.8% this year. in marc
the deficit is down. borrowing is down. jobs are being created. it is a hard road, but we are making progress. everything that we do, we are helping those who want to work hard and get along. thank you. [cheers] [cheers] >> mr. speaker, today after 2.5 years, we can see and people can feel in the country the scale of this government economic failure. [cheers] our economy this year is contracting. the conferred government borrowing is revised this year and every year. the national deficit...
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that's half of last year's federal deficit. what's 800 billion in savings over a decade? that's irrelevant. absolutely. whatever time he spent negotiating that was a complete waste of time. >> here's my criticism. they seem to be negotiating against themselves. they give a proposal, obama gives a non-proposal, and they respond with another proposal. here's what i don't understand. seems the answer is simple if they're worried about the pr side or the political side. pass the bill. extend all the bush tax cuts and then the president and the senate or the president decides if they want to raise taxes on the middle class or not. put it on them. put the onus on them. >> they will have voted not to do that. obama has made a bet that the republican party is so inept at the politics of this that they will get stuck with it. he can hang the debt alba tros of the biggest tax increase in american history around their next. >> he wants it all. howard dean is the only guy i see that has said this is the best case scenario. they get defense sequestration, they get to raise taxes on ev
that's half of last year's federal deficit. what's 800 billion in savings over a decade? that's irrelevant. absolutely. whatever time he spent negotiating that was a complete waste of time. >> here's my criticism. they seem to be negotiating against themselves. they give a proposal, obama gives a non-proposal, and they respond with another proposal. here's what i don't understand. seems the answer is simple if they're worried about the pr side or the political side. pass the bill. extend...
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his tough 2013 budget, targeting a deficit of just 1.8% of gdp, is expected to pass by christmas. the financial reformer postretirement would effectively move italy's next election forward by just -- reformer's retirement would effectively move italy's next election forward by just a month or two. berlusconi announced he would run again for prime minister. in a newspaper interview, the head of the euro bailout fund said that could mean more financial trouble ahead for italy and for the eurozone. italy has pushed through important reforms in the past year, he said. markets have honored this so far. however, they have acted with concern to the recent developments at the end of last week. u.s. ratings agency standard and poor's also expressed doubts about whether italy passed next government would remain committed to the next reforms -- italy's's next government would remain committed to the end -- italy's next government would remain committed to the reforms. >> our correspondents and does this report from the frankfurt stock exchange -- our correspondent sent us this report from th
his tough 2013 budget, targeting a deficit of just 1.8% of gdp, is expected to pass by christmas. the financial reformer postretirement would effectively move italy's next election forward by just -- reformer's retirement would effectively move italy's next election forward by just a month or two. berlusconi announced he would run again for prime minister. in a newspaper interview, the head of the euro bailout fund said that could mean more financial trouble ahead for italy and for the...
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adjusted global goods trade deficit 9.5 billion. september unrevised. forecast here forecast at 8.65, so that is a wide deficit than forecast. adjusted 4.5 billion. sterling not reacting huge amount. european stocks today are firmer. up 0.4% for the ftse. xetra dax continues its strong momentum, we are trading at 52 week highs and up now about 27% for the year. bond markets which is where we stand with yields, spanish ten year yields slightly lower, but we were 5.2% beginning of the week was the handle. currency markets, not huge changes. euro-dollar just below 1.31, dollar-yen 82.44. euro trading, though, at a fresh day high it must be said. we have comments coming out of china on the smartphone segment. apple's rang in china smartphone market which will become the world's biggest this year down to number six in the third quarter. facing tougher competition from chinese brands. this is the research firm idc coming out with this and that third quarter ranking is two spots below the position in the second quarter. this is all in terms of the chinese smar
adjusted global goods trade deficit 9.5 billion. september unrevised. forecast here forecast at 8.65, so that is a wide deficit than forecast. adjusted 4.5 billion. sterling not reacting huge amount. european stocks today are firmer. up 0.4% for the ftse. xetra dax continues its strong momentum, we are trading at 52 week highs and up now about 27% for the year. bond markets which is where we stand with yields, spanish ten year yields slightly lower, but we were 5.2% beginning of the week was...
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you're not going to -- >> i'm also a deficit hawk, joe. >> you are a deficit hawk. and, howard, i know obama won the election, but in this country you need the house to vote on something to make it law, and if they just say no the 39.6 on the high end, if you just let -- go over the cliff, it's going to 39.6. there would be in discussing it. it's going there. >> let's be fair about this. i mean, what i'm proposing is not -- neither the republicans nor the democrats like. because not only does it go to 39.6 on the wealthy which i support, but it also goes back to what people were paying when bill clinton was president for the middle-class and the truth of the matter is no matter what people said in the election, you cannot solve this deficit problem without everybody paying more taxes not just rich people. >> you can go to 100% and not 39.6. you'd like to in a perfect world, i know you, you would like to go to 100%. but you're not going to be able to do that. >> only on television personality. >> you go from raising, like, $80 billion a year which on a trillion dolla
you're not going to -- >> i'm also a deficit hawk, joe. >> you are a deficit hawk. and, howard, i know obama won the election, but in this country you need the house to vote on something to make it law, and if they just say no the 39.6 on the high end, if you just let -- go over the cliff, it's going to 39.6. there would be in discussing it. it's going there. >> let's be fair about this. i mean, what i'm proposing is not -- neither the republicans nor the democrats like....
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european union is still is a fact that it was characterized by the start in democracy a democratic deficit which means. to have a domestic process for the future i don't really think there is going to be a conflict there's going to be and as the conflict but what i really saying is that i find a result a paradoxical final result of this wave or of this period of economic crisis could be the strengthening of the nation state and i think it will be a step backward and not a step for worse ok i mean a lot of people say the solution for europe's problems is more europe ok but a lot of people on the ground are saying enough europe how do you square the circle well you need leadership of course the anxiety tells you i go back to the to the place where i feel comfortable the comfort zone is the nation state so far of course you have to show that there is a solution with more europe and not even more trouble i strongly believe in an economic crisis if america lentil on the end. of the names of the leaders are say we need to more coordinated these things people would agree and you make policy by po
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he has he has not met his targets he's not going to deal with the deficit so the road growth will grow and also there's going to be a huge cart made in benefits pavement to some of the poorest people because we are going to suffer the most i was resolved to go through and there's no end to this all started some now when it's talked about because we saw that just one percent for the benefit of the welfare bill and that's less than inflation you know that's really going to hit a huge no. forty seven billion pounds so it will be caught from the benefits bill and we're talking about farmers is a really on the bread line anyway even losing ten twenty pounds a week is a big hit i mean it's a very cold day outside and it's a very cold prospects for britain's pool because they are going to bear the brunt of the sturdy caused by christmas by all school doesn't know what he's doing thank you very much for joining us that also saves us a lot of course the concern as he said there on picking saying the thing is that one thing cutting through all those statistics and that's the case is going to be
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the american indian tribe and they honored the president by giving him his own indian name running deficit. [ laughter ] >> the nation's debt is no laughing matter. lou dobbs will tell you why we are all in grave danger because of out-of-control government spending. three wise men, what did they do? >> jesse watters quizes the folks about christmas. >> they brought frankincense, miles an mur and. >> baby diapers? >> a wild wild waters world upcoming. >> caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone from california. factor begins right now. hi i'm bill o'reilly reporting from los angeles, thanks for watching us tonight. i'm here to do the leno program this evening. during the long flight across country, i had a chance to analyze something very important to you. all of us needs to wise up and fast. you may have heard the story of new york city police officer who spent $100 of his own money to give bare foot man some boots. that man jeffrey hillman lying in the street when officer deprimo spotted him. >> it was extremely cold that night and you see this gentleman i tried to offer him to bu
the american indian tribe and they honored the president by giving him his own indian name running deficit. [ laughter ] >> the nation's debt is no laughing matter. lou dobbs will tell you why we are all in grave danger because of out-of-control government spending. three wise men, what did they do? >> jesse watters quizes the folks about christmas. >> they brought frankincense, miles an mur and. >> baby diapers? >> a wild wild waters world upcoming. >>...
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he has he has not met his targets he is not going to do with the deficit he said the road growth will grow and also there's going to be a huge car made in benefits pavement to some of the poorest people because we are going to suffer the most i was resolved to go for it and there's no end to the force don't know what it's because we saw that just one percent for the benefit of the welfare bill and that's less than inflation you know that's really going to hit a huge new. it's about forty seven billion pounds from the benefits we're talking about this is a movie on the bread line anyway even losing ten twenty pounds a week is a big hit i mean it's a very cold day outside and it's a very cold prospect for britain's pool because they are going to the ground to be starved to see cool spot christmas by the old school doesn't know what he's doing thank you very much for joining us also say there's a cause for concern he said i'm going picking through the thing is one thing cutting through all the waste and that's the case is going to be set to have to place it so even tough because even all
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welcome mood here in russia to this controversial piece of legislation you see things i'm all for about a deficit from moscow all teased you see coming. when i'll be back with more international news with the news team in just a few moments stay with us this is altie in moscow. i never thought i could earn a living this way. the issue of oil is the norm or should test small arms so those photos to machine building cool and not obvious lost count of all the weapons she's fired over the past twelve years. i got so used to it sometimes my friends ask me to join them at the rifle range and i say no wait i'm so tired of shooting. the planet's history goes from making firearms doing world war two to ballistic missiles from nuclear submarines during the cold war the bulk of the soviet industry was moved here in the 1940's to flee the advancing germans so if you were also became the heart of soviet military production closed off before this fall hoffa's century it's thrived on the message of the soviet military when the u.s.s.r. collapsed but life here was shaken to the core but some adapted to better th
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every target of themselves he has failed he has not met his targets he's not going to deal with the deficit. growth we grow and also there's going to be a huge cart made in benefits pavement to some of the poorest people in the country are going to suffer the most as a result of it and there's no end to this austerity and some now when it's. just one percent and then the well that's less than inflation here that's really going to hit a huge number of books forty seven billion pounds so it will be cut from the benefits we're talking about farmers is a really on the bread line anyway even losing ten twenty pounds is a big i mean it's a very cold day outside and it's very cold prospects for britain's poor because they are going to bear the brunt of the start caused by christmas by the whole school doesn't know what he's doing thank you very much for joining us also say there is a cause for concern he said i won't pay anything the thing is one thing cutting through all the waste and that's. going to be said to have to replace it so even talk of even more starting the greek prime minister is on
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deficit. but the proposal is quickly dismissed by democrats and the white house. finance ministers try to come to an agreement on the european banking union. and australia's central bank cuts interest rates to match the lowest level since the financial crisis to get ahead of sluggish commodities demand. >>> today dow caught up about 9 points. down nearly half a percent during the session. nasdaq calmed up nearly four points. s&p also currently called up half a point or so. global 300 during the course 69 session so far today is up two points. pretty flat session for europe yesterday. just about in positive territory. means the ftse has been up nine out of the last 11 sessions. this morning just up 0.2%. cac 40 up three quarters of a perks ibex up half of 1%. italian yields still going lower. spanish yields still pretty lower. spain requesting aid for its banking sector. and in germ any, yields just a little bit higher. as far as the dollar index is concerned, down at a one month low. euro-dollar up near the high october 22nd. a little bit more than that. dollar-ye
deficit. but the proposal is quickly dismissed by democrats and the white house. finance ministers try to come to an agreement on the european banking union. and australia's central bank cuts interest rates to match the lowest level since the financial crisis to get ahead of sluggish commodities demand. >>> today dow caught up about 9 points. down nearly half a percent during the session. nasdaq calmed up nearly four points. s&p also currently called up half a point or so. global...
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he has failed he has not met his targets he's not going to deal with the deficit as he said the road growth. and also there's going to be a huge car made in benefits pavement to some of the poorest people in the country are going to suffer. as a result of this. and there's no end to this austerity and some i wanted to tell about that we saw just one percent for the benefit of the well that's less than inflation here that's really going to hit a huge number of books forty seven billion pounds so it will be cut from the benefits we're talking about from this is a really on the breadline anyway even losing ten twenty pounds a week. i mean it's a very cold day outside and it's a very cold prospects for britain's pool because they are going to bear the brunt of the starting course by christmas by this is all school doesn't know what he's doing thank you very much for joining us also say there's a lot of course the concern is he said i'm going picking through the thing is one thing cutting through all the states and that's the way it's going to be set i have to place it so they even talk u
he has failed he has not met his targets he's not going to deal with the deficit as he said the road growth. and also there's going to be a huge car made in benefits pavement to some of the poorest people in the country are going to suffer. as a result of this. and there's no end to this austerity and some i wanted to tell about that we saw just one percent for the benefit of the well that's less than inflation here that's really going to hit a huge number of books forty seven billion pounds so...
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but anyway, the deficit is clearly not going to achieve getting rid of that in a five-year period. many estimates believe that in 2013-2014, the next fiscal year, it's going to be around 7%. that's better than the 11% inherited by this government, but will be a couple points worse than greece and spain. so that's a big negative for george osbourne. another one will be getting the percentage of debt compared with gdp in the country, getting that down within a five-year period, getting it syncing in the right direction. he thought it was going to peek around 75%, 75%. it looks like it could go up even further. so let's see what he says on that front today. in terms of options, he has very few options indeed because this is a government which as we know has set its fallout on plan a. and yet, are we seeing real austerity? i'm not entirely sure. government borrowing this fiscal year so far in the five months that we have figures for already is 26.7% higher than the same period a year ago. the idea originally this year was for flat spending and then getting it down there after. and he's
but anyway, the deficit is clearly not going to achieve getting rid of that in a five-year period. many estimates believe that in 2013-2014, the next fiscal year, it's going to be around 7%. that's better than the 11% inherited by this government, but will be a couple points worse than greece and spain. so that's a big negative for george osbourne. another one will be getting the percentage of debt compared with gdp in the country, getting that down within a five-year period, getting it syncing...
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deficit reduction plan how to get it back on track. they are proposing the plan that is a democrat version of the -- democrat counterpart to simpson. very smart. this offer was serious. the white house even though they put out a statement saying blah, blah, not good enough. call it a republican letter -- >> eric: this is the republican letter does not meet the test of balance. said our way or the highway from the white house. >> bob: reform ideas are interesting and should be on the table. the rest is bull. they don't cut anything out of defense. number one. number two, talk about the tax reform that will get to rich. or broaden the base of the tax base. including more people paying taxes. this is a joke on top of joke, andly give you this. entitle reform are good ideas. calling the -- >> dana: i thought bush tax cuts only help the rich. i defended that for eight years. >> eric: get greg in here. bob calls this a joke of a joke. republicans suggest $600 billion in more taxes. >> yeah. >> dana: $800 billion. >> eric: sorry. $800 billion
deficit reduction plan how to get it back on track. they are proposing the plan that is a democrat version of the -- democrat counterpart to simpson. very smart. this offer was serious. the white house even though they put out a statement saying blah, blah, not good enough. call it a republican letter -- >> eric: this is the republican letter does not meet the test of balance. said our way or the highway from the white house. >> bob: reform ideas are interesting and should be on the...
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the deficit's declined in the last three years and tax revenues are rising. spending has been flat for the last two and a half years so the pressure is moving in the right direction. the worry for me is if you raise taxes and cut spending now you're going to knock back growth and prevent that acceleration in revenue. you've got gdp growth up to 3 or 3.5, the revenue implications are enormous. because revenue tends to spike -- >> and nobody believes it. that's the problem. we're into this world where we may spend, and we may even have a pop from government spending. it's never sustained. and all it creates is this huge discussion which underminds business confidence of how we're going to pay for the debt. we have exposed, i think, the achilles heel of keynesian economics. >> i broadly agree with you. in 2008, 2009, i think the fiscal stimulus made a lot of sense. but i think that we're at a point now where the economy is strong enough that we need to get started on the fiscal adjustment. we've got to make sure it's not too many. i'd say something on the order
the deficit's declined in the last three years and tax revenues are rising. spending has been flat for the last two and a half years so the pressure is moving in the right direction. the worry for me is if you raise taxes and cut spending now you're going to knock back growth and prevent that acceleration in revenue. you've got gdp growth up to 3 or 3.5, the revenue implications are enormous. because revenue tends to spike -- >> and nobody believes it. that's the problem. we're into this...
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um, the budget deficit, um, and then foreign policy. so the four top issues were the same in a slightly different order than they were for the rest of the electorate. um, the budget deficit and health care were in opposite places for the rest of the electorate. um, time it was a little more -- this time it was a little more those domestic issues, those domestic-driven issues than four years ago in my experience. again, part of that is where the media was focused, and the nature of the spanish-speaking community in south florida that's particularly foreign policy driven. but this time even that community wasn't -- and to the extent i was talking about foreign policy, i was talking about benghazi rather than cuba. >> last question, you didn't use the word immigration. immigration was not in that -- >> it came up a little, it came up -- >> a little bit. >> it came up a little bit, and it came up in the following way, um, people wanted to know that the president cared about the issue. they wanted to understand why it hadn't been achieved in
um, the budget deficit, um, and then foreign policy. so the four top issues were the same in a slightly different order than they were for the rest of the electorate. um, the budget deficit and health care were in opposite places for the rest of the electorate. um, time it was a little more -- this time it was a little more those domestic issues, those domestic-driven issues than four years ago in my experience. again, part of that is where the media was focused, and the nature of the...
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david, how much of the deficit, if we let the bush tax cuts sunset, how much of the deficit goes away? >> well, a significant percentage. >> like three quarters of it. >> it's not a good thing to do. it's going to push us back. >> when is it a good time? >> we need a down payment of both revenue and spending reductions, but we need to achieve four to five trillion over ten years through a grand bargain and we have to make sure that we're going to achieve a lot more than that beyond the ten years because we have 10,000 people a day retiring. health care costs are still out of control and we have to look long-term. that's why we say debt to gdp. >> somebody just sent in a really good question. that is with the president's health care plans, with obama care, does that change the debt to gdp in terms of taxes going up? >> it makes it worse. >> it's already going up. >> the affordable care act expanded cover an to 36 million people. it did not do enough to control costs. there are positive aspects of it, but according to the chief actuary of medicare, it's estimated to cost $12 trillion mo
david, how much of the deficit, if we let the bush tax cuts sunset, how much of the deficit goes away? >> well, a significant percentage. >> like three quarters of it. >> it's not a good thing to do. it's going to push us back. >> when is it a good time? >> we need a down payment of both revenue and spending reductions, but we need to achieve four to five trillion over ten years through a grand bargain and we have to make sure that we're going to achieve a lot more...
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should you say you're cutting the deficit $800 billion? the real issue is this. if we're going to get serious about negotiating, okay? we can have programs that aren't on the books anymore now, i understand that we're not spending that money, but when you come to the table to rise above for a compromise, don't bring me air and say, see? i'm not spending this, so it's a savings. it's only a saving when you hear the scissors cutting through it, carl. so people need to get real on both sides of the aisle and address real, not baseline, real savings by cutting spending. back to you. >> rick, is that real money you're cutting up down there? >> you know what? even though this is one of the last bastions of capitalism, those were not real benjamin frank lynn. so, see? i'm ready for negotiation. put me on the team. i just did a lot of cuts that mean nothing. boy, how much did i save us over ten year. >>> thank you, rick. more santelli in the third hour. >>> still ahead, of course, live coverage of president obama's remarks on the fiscal cliff and the negotiations before
should you say you're cutting the deficit $800 billion? the real issue is this. if we're going to get serious about negotiating, okay? we can have programs that aren't on the books anymore now, i understand that we're not spending that money, but when you come to the table to rise above for a compromise, don't bring me air and say, see? i'm not spending this, so it's a savings. it's only a saving when you hear the scissors cutting through it, carl. so people need to get real on both sides of...
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now let's former cbo director says these cuts fail to control the greatest deficit challenge, federal health care spending. >> the future path of mandatory has been clear for a decade now. it is largely driven by health care costs and baby boom and every cbo director come to the same conclusion. you can't grow your way out of it. you can not tax your way out of it. you must change these programs. >> democrats argue if the government cuts too much spending the economy will slow further. back to you. david: rich edson, thank you very much, rich. lauren: with all the uncertainty surrounding fiscal cliff should you invest differently right now? david: one economist says investors have to look beyond the fiscal crisis. we have senior economist at oppenheimer fund joins us now. more than that, what you say you've got the perfect split. -p60/40, 60 being equities and 40 being dot, dot, dot, something else. how do you devise, some people are gold bugs say it is all gold. cash bugs, say you have to be flexible, keep it in cash. how do you divide the 40% not in equities? >> first of all we took
now let's former cbo director says these cuts fail to control the greatest deficit challenge, federal health care spending. >> the future path of mandatory has been clear for a decade now. it is largely driven by health care costs and baby boom and every cbo director come to the same conclusion. you can't grow your way out of it. you can not tax your way out of it. you must change these programs. >> democrats argue if the government cuts too much spending the economy will slow...
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so, yeah, this is something that's going to be put on the table along with the deficit increase and the debt limit, and so, yeah, i think boehner and others have that -- those cards that they can play. the problem is you've got right in front of you the more immediate concerns before you even get to the discussion about unemployment and insurance and the cost of those programs, the money that currently goes on-line or comes own line in terms of fiscal cliff spending and revenue raised in the next three weeks, and, yes, that's at the end of the month. they'll get through that, but, again, you want to have leverage when you have that conversation. that leverage is going to, i think, hinge off of what you were saying, and i think you're right. boehner has probably the better hand to play here given that really there's not a strong hand, but it's a better hand than what he otherwise would have in terms of negotiations. if he is just allowed get in the room and negotiate the deal because he knows he has all these other, you know, arrows in his quiver that he can use. >> i just -- i think it'
so, yeah, this is something that's going to be put on the table along with the deficit increase and the debt limit, and so, yeah, i think boehner and others have that -- those cards that they can play. the problem is you've got right in front of you the more immediate concerns before you even get to the discussion about unemployment and insurance and the cost of those programs, the money that currently goes on-line or comes own line in terms of fiscal cliff spending and revenue raised in the...
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tomorrow, the meeting begins and we'll get trade deficit figures. wednesday is import prices and that fed decision along with ben bernan bernanke's news conference. theirs, jobless claims and november sales on ppi. on friday, we'll get consumer prices and industrial production. check in now on european markets, the ftse mib now at session lows down .6%. ibex 35 in spain also an underperformer. it was down greater than 2%. it's just shy of that level now. portugal seeing weakness as investors show some concern about the periphery in light of political news this morning and u.s. investors are feeling a strong hit. after a strong session on friday, they're giving up some of those gains. dow is looking to shed about 34 points now, similar decline for the nasdaq and the sep. let's head over to michael gurka. good monday morning, i should say. we're not necessarily starting off with a great tone this week. what do you expect to be the key theme here? >> well, you know what? you can never dismiss the fed meeting, especially at this time of the year conside
tomorrow, the meeting begins and we'll get trade deficit figures. wednesday is import prices and that fed decision along with ben bernan bernanke's news conference. theirs, jobless claims and november sales on ppi. on friday, we'll get consumer prices and industrial production. check in now on european markets, the ftse mib now at session lows down .6%. ibex 35 in spain also an underperformer. it was down greater than 2%. it's just shy of that level now. portugal seeing weakness as investors...
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it is not -- it shouldn't even be discussed in the deficit because it doesn't add to the deficit. medicare we have in the obama care we put into reform. i mean, the republicans just finished telling us that it was terrible that we cut $716 billion out of medicare, and that was terrible. now they want to add a lot more cuts. i think that the cuts we made in medicare were enough. they should not impact beneficiaries. and we shouldn't do anything that will at this point. those cuts may very well over a long period of time put medicare on a sustainable basis. we shouldn't do anything further to medicare until whether we see that works out. >> but you acknowledge a deal is not likely to get done without some reforms to entitlements. >> i do not acknowledge that and if a deal doesn't get done, it doesn't get done. >> you're prepared to go over the cliff as well? >> absolutely. >> it sounds -- >> it's not a cliff, by the way. and understand this. people keep talking about the republicans deliberately created this emergency. in order to blackmail the country. and the emergency here, the c
it is not -- it shouldn't even be discussed in the deficit because it doesn't add to the deficit. medicare we have in the obama care we put into reform. i mean, the republicans just finished telling us that it was terrible that we cut $716 billion out of medicare, and that was terrible. now they want to add a lot more cuts. i think that the cuts we made in medicare were enough. they should not impact beneficiaries. and we shouldn't do anything that will at this point. those cuts may very well...
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and the chancellor of the -- the finance minister has now warned that he won't meet his deficit targets for austerity will have to continue. we expect higher taxes on the rich tomorrow, cuts in public spending, and in this environment the multinationals like google, amazon, starbucks, are very firmly in the firing line. after all what better than to attack big corporate america. and they're being told, smell the coffee. i can play that game, too, michael. >> wake up and smell the coffee. always good to see you, mr. quest. always making it simple for us. richard quest in london. probably didn't pay for that coffee. >>> over the weekend, the palestinians celebrated their new status recognized by the united nations. the joy short-lived. how israel's decision to pursue even more settlements in the west bank and east jerusalem may kill any hopes of peace. we'll dive deep lie into this issue. >>> rp says it's not changing plans for the controversial housing development in east of jerusalem also developments in east jerusalem. this is despite getting a diplomatic mackdown recently from austral
and the chancellor of the -- the finance minister has now warned that he won't meet his deficit targets for austerity will have to continue. we expect higher taxes on the rich tomorrow, cuts in public spending, and in this environment the multinationals like google, amazon, starbucks, are very firmly in the firing line. after all what better than to attack big corporate america. and they're being told, smell the coffee. i can play that game, too, michael. >> wake up and smell the coffee....
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you can't make up the budget deficit just by raising money from rich people. >> let's talk netflix. receiving wells notice from s.e.c., regulators warning they may bring civil action against the company and the ceo for violating public disclosure rules with a facebook post. back on july 3rd, the ceo posting netflix a monthly viewing exceeded 1 billion hours for the first time ever in june. the s.e.c. requires public companies to make the information public. hastings says he didn't believe the facebook post was material information although that day the stock was up 13%. in a letter yesterday, he also suggested the fact the post was assessable to more than 245,000 subscribers to the page makes it very public. you can choose to disclose information through other venues considered fair that may reach fewer people at the end of the day. >> ain't up to you. it's up to the government. >> rules are rules. >> and these things do need to evolve. there is little doubt about that. i remember when fd was put in. i would have conversations with executives and say you can tell me -- i'm on cnbc -
you can't make up the budget deficit just by raising money from rich people. >> let's talk netflix. receiving wells notice from s.e.c., regulators warning they may bring civil action against the company and the ceo for violating public disclosure rules with a facebook post. back on july 3rd, the ceo posting netflix a monthly viewing exceeded 1 billion hours for the first time ever in june. the s.e.c. requires public companies to make the information public. hastings says he didn't believe...
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all on the spending side and as many americans have to balance the wrong budget knows, if you have a deficit that means you have to bring in more rate comment and spend less. melissa: all we're ever talking about is raising taxes and nobody is talking about what we need to cut. the first thing you would do is stop spending. let's tighten our belts. regardless though you really think it is too late? i think they can come up with some solution that is held together with chicken wire and bubblegum and scotch tape and this little crummy thing that will keep us from going over the cliff pushing the whole problem off into the future. speak i think you have to treat two separate issues separately. one is avoiding the cliff, and i think the way to do that is to reach a short-term agreement on tax cut extensions. relatively optimistic they can get a long-term budget agreement done next year, but don't think they can do it in two weeks which is what the president thinks it's going to happen. if they separate the two issues and reach an agreement, that will onny be temporary. it is not like they're sig
all on the spending side and as many americans have to balance the wrong budget knows, if you have a deficit that means you have to bring in more rate comment and spend less. melissa: all we're ever talking about is raising taxes and nobody is talking about what we need to cut. the first thing you would do is stop spending. let's tighten our belts. regardless though you really think it is too late? i think they can come up with some solution that is held together with chicken wire and bubblegum...
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far the white house and congressional republicans are still in disagreement over how to reduce the deficit and avoid a raft of tax hikes and spending cuts. yesterday our own jim cramer and maria bartiromo were on "meet the press" and cramer had a message for fellow panelists and father of the anti-tax pledge, grover norquist. >> most ceos are republican. they're on board. they're not on board with you. they're not on board with you because they fear your view. they think you do not favor going -- you favor going over the cliff. that's what they think. they think that you favor -- >> just for the record since we're on tv. that's silly if they think that they shouldn't be ceos. >> it doesn't really matter. that's what they think. >> i want you to walk me up to that moment. >> behind the record. i like that too. >> i'm stuck. like grover is stuck with this pledge he made everybody take which is that they have to go over the cliff because they obviously will not ever say the word tax. they will only say revenue. i'm stuck speaking to many more ceos than grover norquist is. he thinks it's silly
far the white house and congressional republicans are still in disagreement over how to reduce the deficit and avoid a raft of tax hikes and spending cuts. yesterday our own jim cramer and maria bartiromo were on "meet the press" and cramer had a message for fellow panelists and father of the anti-tax pledge, grover norquist. >> most ceos are republican. they're on board. they're not on board with you. they're not on board with you because they fear your view. they think you do...
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on this morning, whom i have great respect for, he had the piece from the imf study when you cut the deficit by 1%, what is the impact on the gdp. they didn't get into that this morning but if his numbers he's using 0.9 to 1.4, if you lose 2% to 3% of gdp you'll go to negative growth which will impact -- >> at the very least the wheels will be on the runway. >> absolutely. >> let's switch gears, mario draghi today, listen, i was so wrong and i don't know how long it will last but i give him credit, at least for this period of time, how long it lasts because there is no growth and recession in europe i can't answer but what were your observations on that press conference? >> last night when i wrote about it, mario draghi can put his feet up and have a stella and enjoy. he bought himself time. july 6th will be mario draghi's day of celebration because he stemmed the financial crisis in europe and bought time. berlusconi comes onto the scene this morning with the politics and italian debt markets paid a price for it, it's coming back as we're talking, rallied back quite a bit in the ten-year bo
on this morning, whom i have great respect for, he had the piece from the imf study when you cut the deficit by 1%, what is the impact on the gdp. they didn't get into that this morning but if his numbers he's using 0.9 to 1.4, if you lose 2% to 3% of gdp you'll go to negative growth which will impact -- >> at the very least the wheels will be on the runway. >> absolutely. >> let's switch gears, mario draghi today, listen, i was so wrong and i don't know how long it will last...
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and any tax increases should go direct to deficit reduction. take away the hey, everything goes into the general fund because it certainly seems like when you're fibbing about 35% and 75% truths that really all they're after isn't fixing the economy, it's your bucks. back to you. >> all right. rick, breaking it down like no one else can. rick santelli with the santelli exchange. tweet time now. mcdone old's november sales getting a cheddar bacon boost. sales figures in the u.s. rising 2.5% as customers chomped down on the limited time cheddar bacon onion sandwiches. so what is the next menu innovation that could propel mcd? tweet us @squawk street. we've got some of your answers right after this. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. [ male announcer ] break from the holid
and any tax increases should go direct to deficit reduction. take away the hey, everything goes into the general fund because it certainly seems like when you're fibbing about 35% and 75% truths that really all they're after isn't fixing the economy, it's your bucks. back to you. >> all right. rick, breaking it down like no one else can. rick santelli with the santelli exchange. tweet time now. mcdone old's november sales getting a cheddar bacon boost. sales figures in the u.s. rising...